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The clinical investigator in the Department of Bone Marrow Transplantation & Cellular Therapy at St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital discussed several areas of interest for research now that CAR-T is here to stay.

Rebecca Epperly, MD, on Research Considerations as CAR-T Therapy Comes of Age 

The clinician scientist at St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital discussed the session on cell therapies in acute leukemias and Hodgkin lymphoma she moderated at ASH 2022. 

Rebecca Epperly, MD, on Emerging Clinical Research With Cell Therapy in Leukemia, Lymphoma

Patient use of the 2 FDA-approved gene therapy products for sickle cell disease (SCD), Vertex Pharmaceuticals' and CRISPR Therapeutics’ 

 (exa-cel; marketed as Casgevy) and bluebird bio’s 

 (lovo-cel; marketed as Lyfgenia), in the commercial setting has remained low.

Despite the approval of both gene therapy products by the FDA occurring simultaneously on December 8, 2023, only 4 patients have begun treatment with lovo-cel in the commercial setting, while 20 patients are reported to have begun treatment with exa-cel. Alongside the number for lovo-cel, bluebird also pointed out that this year 4 patients have started on elivaldogene autotemcel (Lenti-D, Skysona), its marketed gene therapy for cerebral adrenoleukodystrophy, and 19 patients have started on betibeglogene autotemcel (beti-cel, Zynteglo), its marketed gene therapy for transfusion dependent thalassemia (TDT). As such, bluebird bio has reported 23 total cell collections for SCD/TDT gene therapies lovo-cel and beti-cel. The company expects that patient uptake of the 3 aforementioned therapies will continue to increase, with 85 patient starts expected across the therapies by the end of the year.

“We are seeing clear evidence that our commercial launch is accelerating, with over 20 cell collections completed in SCD and TDT to date in 2024, and more than 40 additional patients already scheduled to initiate the treatment journey for a bluebird gene therapy by the end of this year,” Andrew Obenshain, MBA, the chief executive officer of bluebird bio, said in a statement.

 “We are further encouraged by the commitment to provide patient access across both commercial and government payers, most recently conveyed through multiple positive Medicaid decisions and the growing number of published coverage policies for Lyfgenia, and we expect approximately 85 patient starts across our portfolio this year.”

Notably, unlike lovo-cel, exa-cel is indicated for both SCD and TDT. Since Vertex has not clarified the breakdown of patients treated with exa-cel for each disease, direct comparison is difficult. The approval in TDT came slightly later, with 

“Vertex delivered another strong quarter of revenue growth coupled with outstanding execution across the business, and we are increasing our full year product revenue guidance,” Reshma Kewalramani, MD, the chief executive officer and president of Vertex, said in an August 1, 2024, statement.

 “Our focus for the second half of the year remains on commercial execution in cystic fibrosis and the global launch of Casgevy, readying for the upcoming potential launches of the vanzacaftor triple in cystic fibrosis and suzetrigine in acute pain, while rapidly advancing a robust pipeline that is poised to deliver value for patients and shareholders for the long term.”

Beyond gene therapy for SCD and TDT, uptake of 

hemophilia gene therapies has also been slow

. Although BioMarin’s valoctocogene roxaparvovec (val-rox, marketed as Roctavian) was approved in June 2023, the first patient outside of clinical trials 

 until December 2023, at the Center for Inherited Bleeding Disorders (CIBD) in California.

 Just this month, BioMarin announced that 

 with regard to val-rox, with the company now mainly focusing on distributing the gene therapy in the United States, Germany, and Italy, the 3 countries in which it has been approved for use by relevant regulatory authorities and is reimbursed.

 UniQure and CSL Behring’s hemophilia B gene therapy, etranacogene dezaparvovec (marketed as Hemgenix), which was 

, has also been slow to be embraced by patients.

“We haven't seen a lot of patients dosed yet,” Steven W. Pipe, MD, a professor of pediatric hematology/oncology at CS Mott Children’s Hospital, told 

 regarding Hemegenix earlier in 2024. “And I don't think that’s related to either the enthusiasm of the clinicians or the patients, but really just the mechanics of how to deliver this in the clinical space, as opposed to the research trials... We've seen that a lot of the hemophilia treatment center sites have got their components together, their infrastructure and personnel so that they can actually start delivering this in the commercial setting. And so, I'm really looking forward to seeing this making a difference in patients' lives in a real world setting.”

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1. bluebird bio reports second quarter 2024 results and highlights operational progress and 2024 guidance. News release. bluebird bio, Inc. August 14, 2024. Accessed August 15, 2024. https://investor.bluebirdbio.com/news-releases/news-release-details/bluebird-bio-reports-second-quarter-2024-results-and-highlights
2. Stock dive for bluebird as sickle cell gene therapy lags behind Vertex rival. News article. Anna Bratulic. FirstWord Pharma. August 14, 2024. Accessed August 15, 2024. https://firstwordpharma.com/story/5885598
3. Vertex announces US FDA approval of CASGEVY™ (exagamglogene autotemcel) for the Treatment of Transfusion-Dependent Beta Thalassemia. News release. Vertex Pharmaceuticals Incorporated. January 16, 2024. Accessed August 15, 2024. https://news.vrtx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/vertex-announces-us-fda-approval-casgevytm-exagamglogene
4. Vertex reports second quarter 2024 financial results. News release. Vertex Pharmaceuticals Incorporated. August 1, 2024. Accessed August 15, 2024. https://investors.vrtx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/vertex-reports-second-quarter-2024-financial-results
5. Center for Inherited Blood Disorders Administers Country's First Gene Therapy Infusion to Treat Hemophilia A. News release. Center for Inherited Blood Disorders. January 11, 2024. Accessed August 15, 2024. https://firstwordpharma.com/story/5817834?from=article
6. BioMarin Announces Updated Strategy for ROCTAVIAN® to Focus on U.S., Germany and Ital. News release. BioMarin Pharmaceutical Inc. August 5, 2024. Accessed August 15, 2024. https://investors.biomarin.com/news/news-details/2024/BioMarin-Announces-Updated-Strategy-for-ROCTAVIAN-to-Focus-on-U.S.-Germany-and-Italy/default.aspx
7. FDA approves first gene therapy to treat adults with hemophilia B. News release. FDA. November 22, 2022. Accessed August 15, 2024. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-gene-therapy-treat-adults-hemophilia-b

bluebird bio has reported 23 total cell collections for SCD and TDT gene therapies lovo-cel and beti-cel and Vertex Pharmaceuticals has reported approximately 20 cell collections for SCD/TDT gene therapy exa-cel.

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Uptake of Nononcology Gene Therapy Remains Slow in Hematology

(arsa-cel, OTL-200; Orchard Therapeutics) is a gene-edited cell therapy designed to restore arylsulfatase A (ARSA) enzyme activity in children with presymptomatic (PS) late infantile (LI), PS early juvenile (EJ), or early symptomatic (ES) early juvenile (EJ) metachromatic leukodystrophy (MLD).

 arsa-cel under the name Lenmeldy to become the first gene therapy for children with MLD to be approved in the United States, following its approval in the European Union, UK, Iceland, Switzerland, Liechtenstein and Norway under the name Libmeldy.1 Orchard Therapeutics previously announced that the FDA had accepted the biologics license application with 

The FDA’s decision was based on data from patients treated with arsa-cel across 2 clinical trials (NCT01560182; NCT03392987) and additional patients treated in expanded access frameworks. These patients had follow-up times ranging from 0.64 years to 12.19 years (median, 6.76).

“Metachromatic leukodystrophy, is a really important unmet need in the pediatric community. So, this is a disease that's rare, it affects about one in 40,000 children. And up until recently, we have had no curative treatment option for this,” Madeleine Powys, MBBS, Staff Specialist, Blood Transplant and Cell Therapies, The Children's Hospital at Westmead, told 

. "Autologous hematopoietic stem cell gene therapy has offered really promising new hope for these patients.”

Madeleine Powys, MBBS, on Lessons Learned With Libmeldy

Arsa-cel is currently being evaluated in 6 participants enrolled in a phase 3 clinical trial (NCT04283227). The trial enrolled participants with documented biochemical and molecular diagnosis of MLD, including low ARSA activity and identification of 2 disease-causing ARSA alleles, with novel mutations analyzed and excluded as common polymorphisms, alongside specific genotype criteria. Symptomatic individuals must have onset between 7 and 17 years of age, or pre-symptomatic participants must be less than 17 years at treatment initiation and have a sibling with late-juvenile MLD variant, along with normal cognitive and motor function, with seizures or disease signs revealed by instrumental evaluations not being exclusionary if present alone, and compliance with contraceptive use requirements if applicable, with signed informed consent or assent provided by the participant or guardian.

The exclusion criteria for the study include documented HIV infection, malignant neoplasia except localized skin cancer or hereditary cancer syndrome unless successfully treated with no recurrence, myelodysplasia, acute myeloid leukemia, or serious hematological disorders, current enrollment in other interventional trials, prior allogeneic HSPC gene therapy or gene therapy, symptomatic herpes zoster unresponsive to treatment, active tuberculosis unless on antibiotic prophylaxis, acute or chronic stable Hepatitis B or positive Hepatitis C RNA test result unless specific conditions are met, end-organ dysfunction, severe infection not responsive to treatment, or other severe diseases deemed inappropriate for the study by the investigator. Additionally, testing for other transmissible infectious agents may be considered, and participants with elevated liver enzymes or bilirubin may be included after discussion and agreement with the medical monitor.

The study’s primary measures involve assessing the OTpbmsL-200 Arylsulfatase A (ARSA) activity levels in cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) and the neuronal metabolite ratio of N-acetyl-aspartate (NAA) to creatine (Cr) in white matter brain regions, both evaluated at 24 months post-treatment, with changes from baseline being monitored.

Secondary measures involve evaluating changes in ARSA activity levels in CSF and neuronal metabolite ratio in white matter brain regions, assessing ARSA levels in peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs) and specific subtypes, comparing neuronal metabolite ratios to baseline, siblings, or untreated controls, determining engraftment through lentiviral positivity in bone marrow progenitors and vector copy number in BM cells and PBMCs, assessing severity scale for brain MRI, neurocognitive function, full neurological clinical examination, gross motor function classification, nerve conduction velocity, Vineland Adaptive Behavior Scale, and monitoring conditioning regimen and non-conditioning-related adverse events up to 8 years post gene therapy, along with hematological reconstitution, infusion-related reactions, immune response, abnormal clonal proliferation, replication-competent lentivirus, and integration site analysis findings over time.

, held February 4-9, in San Diego, California, by Vera Gallo, MD, staff pediatrician, San Raffaele Telethon Institute for Gene Therapy. The data were from 5 patients with LJ MLD that had follow-up ranging from 3.2 to 21.3 months (median, 17.3). At the time of treatment, 3 patients had PS MLD and 2 had ES MLD. The group included a 2.7-year-old girl (PS), a 9.9-year-old boy (ES), a 15.2-year-old boy (PS), a 6.6-year-old girl (PS), and 10.9-year-old boy (ES) as of the December 2023 cutoff date.

"This represents of course, the proof of principle that gene therapy with ex- vivo lentiviral gene therapy into stem cells can correct a lysosomal storage disorder (LSD)... and could be applicable to other LSDS. So we're working on new diseases to bring this approach of enzyme correction also to other LSDs," investigator Alessandro Aiuti, MD, PhD, deputy director, clinical research, and head, Clinical Research Unit, San Raffaele Telethon Institute for gene therapy, and Group leader, Pathogenesis and therapy, primary immunodeficiencies unit, and full professor, Università Vita Salute San Raffaele, and chief of clinic, Pediatric Immunohematology Unit, San Raffaele, told 

Data from these participants showed that they all had normal hematological reconstitution and engraftment that was consistent with arsa-cel outcomes seen in patients with early-onset MLD who have been treated in other settings. Time to neutrophil engraftment ranged from 26 to 42 days (median, 33) posttreatment and time to platelet engraftment ranged from 25 to 46 days (median, 26) posttreatment. ARSA activity reached supranormal levels in the PBMCs and in CD15+ cells and increased to normal levels in the CSF in 3 patients for whom central nervous system pharmacodynamic efficacy measures were available.At 90 days after administration of arsa-cel transduced bone marrow progenitors made up between 23.81% to 81.25% of bone marrow progenitors. At this time point, the PBMCs showed a median vector copy number (VCN) of 0.49 copies/cell and the CD15+ cells showed a median VCN of 0.82 copies/cell.

In terms of safety, there were no serious adverse events (SAEs) deemed potentially related to arsa-cel. One nonserious AE deemed potentially related to the therapy, a case of erythematous rash, occurred in 1 patient. No SAEs deemed potentially related to the Busulfan conditioning regimen occurred; although cases of febrile neutropenia, cytopenia, and stomatitis were deemed to have potential relation to the regimen. An SAE of upper respiratory tract infection occurred in 1 patient. One patient with prolonged thrombocytopenia who had previously experienced treatment-failure with allogeneic transplant in the form of autologous reconstitution was administered thrombopoietin receptor agonist therapy for 5 months. No multilineage engraftment of transduced cells or malignancy occurred and there was no indication of clonal expansion or replication competent lentivirus.

1. FDA Approves First Gene Therapy for Children with Metachromatic Leukodystrophy. News release. Orchard Therapeutics. March 18, 2024. Accessed March 18, 2024. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-gene-therapy-children-metachromatic-leukodystroph
2. Orchard Therapeutics announces acceptance of biologics license application for OTL-200 in MLD and receives priority review. News release. Orchard Therapeutics. September 18, 2023. Accessed September 18, 2023. https://ir.orchard-tx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/orchard-therapeutics-announces-acceptance-biologics-license
3. Fumagalli F, Calbi V, De Mattia F, et al. Long-term clinical outcomes of atidarsageneautotemcel (autologous hematopoietic stem cell gene therapy) preserves cognitive and motor development in early-onset metachromatic leukodystrophy with up to 12 years follow-up. Presented at: WORLDSymposium, held February 4-9, in San Diego, California. Poster #92
4. Gallo V, Calbi V, De Mattia F, et al. Lentiviral hematopoietic stem cell gene therapy (atidarsageneautotemcel) for late juvenile metachromatic leukodystrophy (MLD). Presented at: WORLDSymposium, held February 4-9, in San Diego, California. Poster #96

The gene-edited cell therapy has been approved as Lenmeldy by the FDA. 

Phase 3 Trial Seeks to Continue Supporting Arsa-Cel Gene Therapy for MLD 

Over the past 5 to 10 years, chimeric antigen receptor T-cell (CAR-T) therapy has firmly established itself as an effective treatment modality for blood cancers, with several products having been approved by the FDA for such indications, such as Janssen and Legend Biotech’s ciltacabtagene autoleucel (cilta-cel; marketed as Carvykti) and Bristol Myers Squibb (BMS) and 2seventy bio’s idecabtagene vicleucel (ide-cel; marketed as Abecma). In light of this success, it only seems natural for investigators to seek to apply the same technology to solid tumor indications. After all, around 90% of cancers found in adult patients are varieties of solid tumors, and these malignancies can originate in myriad organs throughout the body.

Unfortunately, attempts to apply existing CAR-T approaches that proved effective in blood cancers to solid tumor indications has raised a number of difficulties related to key aspects of solid tumor biology.

 It has therefore become clear that a simple plug-and-play transfer of the technology is thoroughly insufficient. Indeed, a modified approach to CAR-T and/or other engineered cell therapy approaches will be necessary to make the modality of cell therapy able to provide clinically meaningful benefit for solid tumors.

This issue has been known for several years, and a number of biotech companies and academic institutions are already trying their hand at a variety of methods meant to overcome the barriers in place. Although some promising studies have been carried out, the task is still very much a work in progress, and it remains to be seen which, if any, of the approaches currently under evaluation will eventually become part of standard clinical practice. With the aim of getting a cross-section of the current state of progress in the field, 

 reached out to several experts to get their insight into several of the notable approaches currently being assessed.

Using Armored CAR T-Cells to Tackle Solid Tumors

The chair of the department of medicine at Roswell Park Comprehensive Cancer Center discussed the innovations necessary to make CAR-T therapy effective in solid tumor indications.

Renier Brentjens, MD, PhD, on Using Armored CAR T-Cells to Tackle Solid Tumors

“Over the brief 20-year span that I've been doing this work, I think we philosophically kind of changed how we look at [CAR T-cells as cytotoxic agents], and we realized that the CAR T-cell may be more of a spark rather than the actual explosion."

One noteworthy approach currently being applied is the concept of “armored CAR T-cells.” There are CAR-T products that have additional genetic modifications beyond the typical CAR modification itself that are intended to combat cancer cells in additional ways. The additional genetic modification can be almost anything. For example, a proinflammatory cytokine potentially capable of modulating the tumor microenvironment could potentially help to further elicit a patient's own endogenous immune response to aid in attacking the tumor.

Renier Brentjens, MD, PhD, the chair of the department of medicine and the deputy director at Roswell Park Comprehensive Cancer Center, spoke to 

 about how armored CAR T-cells may help bridge the gap necessary to make CAR-T effective in solid tumors. Brentjens pointed out that unlike blood cancers, solid tumors are more complex, and often surrounded by nontumor cells that block immune responses. He explained that armored CAR T-cells can reshape this environment and trigger the body’s natural immune system to help attack the cancer. 

“Over the brief 20-year span that I've been doing this work, I think we philosophically kind of changed how we look at [CAR T-cells as cytotoxic agents], and we realized that the CAR T-cell may be more of a spark rather than the actual explosion," Brentjens told 

. "It's the spark that sets off a downstream effect where an immune system that is actually quite reasonably sophisticated in recognizing cancer cells can overcome the defenses that cancer cells create around themselves to stop cell therapies from working.”

Furthermore, he emphasized that in solid tumors, armored CAR T-cells may help address antigen escape. He noted that this is typically an even greater challenge for solid tumors than it is in blood cancers.

Weber discussed the importance of these phenomena in the larger puzzle of making CAR-T effective in solid tumors, positing that addressing them may be a critical piece to enabling the therapies to be curative.

Addressing T-Cell Exhaustion

“...Overcoming this obstacle, I think, is going to be an important piece of designing and engineering T-cell engineered T-cell therapeutics that can actually cure patients.”

Despite the successes seen so far with CAR-T therapies in clinical trials and in the real-world setting for blood cancers, even in these hematologic malignancies, the modality continues to have a number of limitations. Among these are the phenomena of T-cell exhaustion, in which the CAR T-cells become less functional over time, and the limited persistence of CAR T-cells. It is thought that these phenomena may reduce the efficacy and durability of responses from CAR-T therapy, potentially leading patients to relapse.

 Although means of addressing these limitations are certainly of interest for improving the efficacy of CAR-T in blood cancer indications, tackling these same shortcomings may also give a much-needed boost to the efficacy of attempts to bring CAR-T to solid tumors.

On both these counts, methods to overcome T-cell exhaustion and enhance the persistence of CAR T-cells are a major area of focus for ongoing CAR-T research in the lab of Evan Weber, PhD, an assistant professor of pediatrics at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, and his colleagues. In an interview with 

, Weber discussed the importance of these phenomena in the larger puzzle of making CAR-T effective in solid tumors, positing that addressing them may be a critical piece to enabling the therapies to be curative. 

“Overcoming T-cell exhaustion, which is exactly what it sounds like—it's a process whereby T-cells lose the ability to promote antitumor function both in liquid and solid tumors—overcoming this obstacle, I think, is going to be an important piece of designing and engineering T-cell engineered T-cell therapeutics that can actually cure patients," Weber told 

Weber also shared his thoughts on the broader array of cell therapy approaches currently being explored to treat solid tumors, such as tumor-infiltrating lymphocyte (TIL) therapies and T-cell receptor (TCR) T-cell therapy, and how improved CAR-T therapies may fit into that landscape. He suggested that different approaches may end up carving out different niches where they are shown to be most effective.

 Ben Creelan, MD, a medical oncologist at Moffitt Cancer Center who specializes in oncology cell therapy research, discussed how logic-gating may help CAR-T achieve a more favorable balance of efficacy and safety in solid tumors.

Targets, Logic-Gating, and Logistics

“For example, mesothelin-targeted CAR-T has been a very potent CAR T-cell. It does kill tumor cells that express mesothelin—mesothelioma, adenocarcinoma of the ovary, adenocarcinoma of the lung—and yet, it also attacks the peritoneum, it attacks the pleura, and has been essentially a nonstarter in phase 1 trials until recently.”

In hematologic malignancies, CD19 and BCMA have proven to be efficacious targets for CARs. These antigens exist in sufficient quantity on hematologic cancer cells and in low enough quantities in healthy cells to provide a favorable balance with regard to on-target cell killing. The application of CAR-T to solid tumors, however, requires identifying new antigen targets depending on the solid cancer type being addressed.

 Unfortunately, many antigens that could be potential candidates as targets for solid tumor cell therapies, such as mesothelin, come with higher levels of on-target, off-tumor toxicity than is seen with the targeting of CD19 and BCMA in blood cancers.

One approach aimed at getting around this conundrum is logic-gating.

 Unlike the CAR-T therapies that have been FDA-approved for use against hematologic malignancies that simply target and kill cells expressing a known tumor antigen, logic-gated CAR T-cells allow for more selective cell killing. Depending on the particular construct, they are designed to only activate in both the presence of a target antigen and the absence of a different marker expected to only appear on healthy cells (on-off switch construct) or to only activate in the presence of 2 target antigens (on-on switch construct).

, Ben Creelan, MD, a medical oncologist at Moffitt Cancer Center who specializes in oncology cell therapy research, discussed how logic-gating may help CAR-T achieve a more favorable balance of efficacy and safety in solid tumors by reducing off-tumor on-target toxicity. Creelan additionally spoke about the search for ideal antigen targets for solid tumor therapies in general, and in the course of the discussion touched on a number of recent relevant presentations given at 

the 2025 American Society of Clinical Oncology (ASCO) Annual Meeting

, held May 30 to June 3, in Chicago, Illinois. He highlighted the potential of GPC3 as a target for a range of solid tumor types because it is found to be expressed on most squamous tumors. Other antigens he emphasized were potentially important targets included Claudin 6 and Claudin-18.

Creelan also noted the importance of logistics in making cell therapy a more viable option for solid tumors. In particular, he pointed out the potential benefits of allogeneic and in vivo approaches to manufacturing cell therapy for solid tumors. Allogeneic cell therapy could allow for faster time to treatment and in vivo CAR-T therapy could remove the need for aphaeresis and cut down costs.

On the whole, there are myriad methods to making cell therapy a safe and effective treatment modality for a range solid tumors that are currently in the works. Although it may be tempting to debate which upcoming approach is most likely to be a game-changer, or which treating physicians ought to be most optimistic about, the reality may be that a combination of the aforementioned approaches (and potentially yet untested others as well) may end up needing to come together for cell therapy to be viable in cancers beyond hematologic malignancies and a handful of other indications. Indeed, Weber shared his view on this during the course of his discussion with 

“One of the questions we receive typically, when we present our work publicly, is whether the specific manipulations or approaches that we're developing and engineering in our lab are the best ones out there,” Weber said. “Basically, how do you choose what manipulation to use for a given T-cell therapeutic? I think many of us in the field have, for a long time, had a tendency to claim that our approaches are broadly applicable and could be used to enhance CAR T-cells for solid tumors or liquid tumors or to equally enhance TCR-engineered T-cells and CAR T-cells—but much like my previous answer around different T-cell modalities and how they fit into the therapeutic landscape, I think that these manipulations around enhancing T-cell potency will also be context-specific. 

"For example, armoring techniques for chemokines or cytokines may be appropriate for certain solid tumors and not others, just as transcription factor engineering approaches or other synthetic biology approaches may have context-specific use. I hope that as a field, we evolve our preclinical pipelines to tease some of that context-specificity out before the clinical stage.”

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3. Xing Y, Liu N, Czeryba N, et al. Functional potency assay predicts CAR-T effectiveness in tumor microenvironment. Presented at: AACR Annual Meeting. April 14-19, 2023; Orlando, FL. Abstract 1782.
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5. Ben Creelan, MD, on the potential of logic-gated tmod CAR-T in lung cancer and other solid tumors. Video. CGTLive. November 15, 2023. Accessed June 30, 2025. https://www.cgtlive.com/view/ben-creelan-potential-logic-gated-tmod-car-t-lung-cancer-other-solid-tumors
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7. Senti Bio announces pipeline prioritization to focus on logic gated cell therapies; updates cash runway guidance. News release. Senti Biosciences, Inc. January 27, 2023. Accessed June 30, 2025.  https://investors.sentibio.com/news-releases/news-release-details/senti-bio-announces-pipeline-prioritization-focus-logic-gated

Several experts weighed in on the various strategies being explored to tackle solid tumors with cell therapy, expressing optimism despite the plethora of obstacles that remain.

Cell Therapy’s Lot in Solid Tumors: Challenges and Opportunities

The FDA is no longer requiring Risk Evaluation and Mitigation Strategies (REMS) for the 6 CD19/BCMA-directed chimeric antigen receptor T-cell (CAR-T) therapies that are approved by the agency.

The 6 products include Bristol Myers Squibb (BMS) and 2seventybio’s idecabtagene vicleucel (ide-cel; marketed as Abecma); BMS’s lisocabtagene maraleucel (liso-cel; marketed as Breyanzi); Janssen and Legend Biotech’s ciltacabtagene autoleucel (cilta-cel; marketed as Carvykti); Novartis’s tisagenlecleucel (tisa-cel; marketed as Kymriah); Kite Pharma’s brexucabtagene autoleucel (brexu-cel; marketed as Tecartus); and Kite Pharma’s axicabtagene ciloleucel (axi-cel; marketed as Yescarta). The FDA made the move with the view that the REMS are no longer necessary to ensure a favorable risk-benefit-ratio for the products and that dropping the requirement may increase accessibility to these therapies.

“The FDA has taken the bold step to remove the REMS requirement from giving CAR-T therapies,” Vinay Prasad, MD, MPH, the chief medical and scientific officer and the director of the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research at the FDA, said in a statement.

 “REMS is a useful safety system, but reevaluation over time helps inform whether a REMS is still needed to ensure that the benefits of a product outweigh its risks. Eliminating the REMS that is no longer needed also expedites the delivery of potentially curative treatments to patients and reduces burden on providers.”

With the removal of the REMS requirement, hospitals and clinics that provide these therapies no longer necessitate a specific certification. Additionally, these centers are no longer required to have on-site tocilizumab immediately accessible.

“Physicians and institutions now have greater experience identifying and managing toxicities with the currently approved CAR-T products,” Richard Pazdur, MD, the FDA Oncology Center of Excellence director, added to the statement.

 “This approach will potentially facilitate patient access to these treatments while continuing to prioritize safety.”

Safety monitoring for the affected products will continue in the form of adverse event reporting according to established protocols. The existing requirements for postmarketing observational safety studies assessing secondary malignancy risks and long-term safety follow-up also remain in place.

Alongside removal of the REMS requirement, the FDA also made changes to the labels for liso-cel and ide-cel.

 Notably, BMS released a statement celebrating the FDA’s decision, pointing out that logistical and geographic barriers have likely hindered some patients ability to receive CAR-T that the FDA’s changes to the labels for liso-cel and ide-cel should make the products more accessible. The company noted that historically only about 2 in 10 eligible patients are treated with CAR-T products. BMS highlighted that the FDA’s labeling change reduces the requirement for patients to be located near a healthcare facility for 4 weeks posttreatment down to 2 weeks after treatment with BMS’s CAR-T products.

"Living with blood cancer is challenging, but patients and their loved ones still need to maintain jobs, take care of families, and plan for the future,” Sally Werner, the chief executive officer of Cancer Support Community, said in the BMS press release.

 “Today’s announcement reduces some of the most onerous requirements that may have previously discouraged patients, particularly those who live far from a treatment center, from seeking the potentially transformational effects of cell therapy. We applaud any and all efforts to continue to break down barriers, reducetime burden on patients and caregivers, and increase uptake of this life-saving therapy."

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1. FDA eliminates risk evaluation and mitigation strategies (REMS) for autologous chimeric antigen receptor CAR T cell immunotherapies. News release. FDA. June 27, 2025. July 3, 2025. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-eliminates-risk-evaluation-and-mitigation-strategies-rems-autologous-chimeric-antigen-receptor
2. U.S. Food and drug administration approves streamlined patient monitoring requirements and removal of REMS programs within Bristol Myers Squibb’s cell therapy labels. News release. Bristol Myers Squibb. June 26, 2025. Accessed July 3, 2025. https://news.bms.com/news/corporate-financial/2025/U-S--Food-and-Drug-Administration-Approves-Streamlined-Patient-Monitoring-Requirements-and-Removal-of-REMS-Programs-within-Bristol-Myers-Squibbs-Cell-Therapy-Labels/default.aspx

The FDA made the move with the view that the REMS are no longer necessary to ensure a favorable risk-benefit-ratio for the products and that dropping the requirement may increase accessibility to these therapies.

FDA Drops REMS Requirement for 6 Approved CAR T-Cell Therapies

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In a retrospective, observational study, patients with diffuse large B-cell lymphoma (DLBCL) who were treated with tisagenlecleucel (tisa-cel; Kymriah), axicabtagene ciloleucel (axi-cel; Yescarta), or lisocabtagene maraleucel (liso-cel; Breyanzi) across their FDA-approved indications did not show statistically significant differences in overall survival (OS) (log-rank test: χ², 0.773; degrees of freedom [df], 1; 

 The data were presented in a poster at t

he European Hematology Association (EHA) 2025 Congress

, held June 12 to 15, both virtually and in Milan, Italy.

Respective hazard ratios for axi-cel and tisa-cel, axi-cel and liso-cel, and tisa-cel and liso-cel cohorts constituted .903 (95% CI, 0.719-1.134), 1.065 (95% CI, 0.831-1.364), and 1.163 (95% CI, 0.856-1.582).

“This large-scale, real-world study provides valuable insights into mortality rates associated with 3 approved CAR T-cell therapies for refractory lymphomas over a 3-year period," presenting study author Vladimir Otasevic, MD, PhD, an internal medicine specialist and associate medical director of Hematology at Parexel, and colleagues wrote in the poster. "While mortality rates varied among therapies at different time points, survival analysis of [patients with] DLBCL revealed no statistically significant differences in OS outcomes."

Tisa-cel, axi-cel, and liso-cel are currently the only FDA-approved CAR-T products available for refractory DLBCL.

 In refractory lymphomas, the modality has become a standard of care. Although, insufficient real-world data regarding the performance of these 3 products in the routine clinical setting is available. This study thus aimed to evaluate survival rates following real-world CAR-T treatment by utilizing a large electronic health records database.

Investigators used the TriNet global dataset, which houses the electronic health records of 228,062,680 patients. Data were pooled from patients with DLBCL who had received tisa-cel (n = 1140), axi-cel (n = 1850), or liso-cel (n = 440) across all indications over a 3-year period postinfusion to determine whether there are statistically significant differences in OS between the 3 products.

All-cause mortality was evaluated at months 1, 3, 6, 12, and 36 after infusion. Kaplan-Meier survival analysis was performed to estimate survival outcomes in patients with DLBCL across the 3 therapies during the 3-year post treatment period. Data cutoff was February 19, 2025.

Additional data indicated that the cumulative all-cause mortality rates 1, 3, 6, 12, and 36 months after CAR T-cell therapy infusion with tisa-cel were 2.6%, 7.0%, 12.3%, 17.5%, and 23.7%, respectively. With axi-cel, these respective rates were 2.2%, 7.6%, 13.5%, 19.5%, and 24.5%. Respective rates with liso-cel were 2.3%, 4.5%, 11.4%, 15.9%, and 18.2%.

“These findings indicate consistent survival outcomes in real-world settings as observed in pivotal clinical trials," Otasevic and colleagues concluded.

 "Future research should focus on identifying predictors of mortality and strategies to mitigate risks while maintaining therapeutic efficacy across different CAR T products."

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REFERENCES
1. Maiti K, Otasevic V, Lunney N, D’Angelo K, Learn C, et al. Three-year real-world mortality analysis of CAR-T therapies: tisa-cel, axi-cel, and liso-cel. Presented at: 2025 European Hematology Association Congress; June 12-15, 2025; Milan, Italy. Abstract PS1930.
2. Approved cellular and gene therapy products. FDA. Updated May 15, 2025. Accessed June 17, 2025. https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/cellular-gene-therapy-products/approved-cellular-and-gene-therapy-products

The 3 FDA-approved CAR T-cell therapies showed comparable survival outcomes in DLBCL over a 3-year period.

Canonical

Survival Outcomes Found to Be Comparable for Axi-Cel, Liso-Cel, and Tisa-Cel in Real-World DLBCL Data

Seattle Children’s Research Institute is currently conducating preclinical research on the potential use of BCMA-directed dimerizing agent-regulated immune-receptor complex (DARIC) T-cells for the clearance of plasma cells, which could have applications in autoimmune disease. Peter Cook, PhD, a senior research scientist at Seattle Children’s Research Institute, presented early findings related to this goal at 

the American Society of Gene & Cell Therapy (ASGCT) 28th Annual Meeting

, held May 13 to 17, 2024, in New Orleans, LA. 

 interviewed Cook to learn more. He explained the rationale behind the use of the DARIC cells, discussed the key findings he presented, and touched on next steps for the research.

 Can you give some background context about your presentation at ASGCT?

 We presented on work that we published earlier this year on developing a cell-based therapy specifically to target antibody-secreting plasma cells. It's a BCMA CAR T-cell that's actually drug inducible. The CAR T-cell won't work unless the patient is simultaneously delivered a small molecule drug, rapamycin, and the cells can be turned off by withdrawal of that drug.

What were the key findings that you presented?

We demonstrated our ability to produce these inducible BCMA CAR T-cells, which we call DARIC CAR T-cells. DARIC is an abbreviation for the drug-inducible CAR construct. We showed that by lentiviral transduction we can make cells that have equivalent activity to cells that express a traditional BCMA CAR, except that their activity is solely dependent on the presence of the dimerizer, which causes the CAR to come together. We showed that in vitro targeting multiple myeloma cancer cell lines, which express BCMA, and then also in vivo in mice that have multiple myeloma tumor cells, the tumor is cleared by the DARIC CAR T-cells only if the mice are simultaneously dosed with the drug. 

Then what we were really interested in is whether we could use these cells to target normal plasma cells, which secrete antibodies. In some cases those antibodies can be bad actors, for example in solid organ transplantation if a patient has preexisting antibodies that cause organ rejection. We showed that in vitro with a plasma cell differentiation system that we had developed, these DARIC CAR T-cells could specifically kill only differentiated plasma cells and not undifferentiated B-cells, again, in the presence of the drug. Then, if we took those plasma cells and implanted them into mice, where they'll engraft and secrete human IgG, if those mice were then dosed with the DARIC cells, we saw a complete drop of human IgM and IgG titers in those mice.

How would you summarize the big picture implications you would want the broader healthcare community to take away from this?

I think we're in kind of the early days of using cell-based therapy for autoimmune disease to target antibody response that drives disease. There's already been tremendous excitement about using CD19 CAR T-cells, and there's been, in a very small number of patients, tremendous efficacy in lupus in that model. But as more people get involved, and we start expanding this therapy out to other disease indications, there will be cases where CD19 targeting isn't really what we want, and what we really want is something that's more specific to the plasma cells, which don't actually express CD19. The example I cited earlier of antibody rejection of solid organ transplants is one example. So we see that the BCMA DARIC cells could be a useful tool in the cell toolbox for use in autoimmune disease targeting antibodies that are acting as bad actors in that setting. In addition, the drug-inducible context can be useful specifically if you want to time things to the flare and remission cycle of autoimmune disease.

Are there any challenges that came up in this research that still need to be addressed?

I mean, the most obvious challenge for all of these cell-based therapies is probably cost of goods and complexity of the therapy. One thing that we're interested in is in vivo conversion of cells. For example, you could imagine a lentiviral construct that's been pseudotyped to target CD3 T-cells that would then deliver the BCMA DARIC. Then, instead of doing all of this complicated ex vivo engineering of the patient's cells and then redosing along with cytotoxic chemotherapy to improve engraftment, you would simply give the patient a dose of this lentiviral therapy package, which would then spontaneously convert their cells. Those cells with the DARIC construct would be nonfunctional unless you also gave the small molecule drug to turn them on, which could be an additional safety feature. That's sort of a challenge for the field, but I think there's a lot of interesting efforts to develop the technology to address that.

Are there any like future plans or next steps for this that you could discuss a little bit?

The strategy that I just described for developing an in vivo delivery system is certainly one next step. In our paper that we published, we didn't really use any disease models or organ transplant (you could imagine a skin graft model). We just showed that these cells can clear human plasma cells in engrafted mice. So moving it into actual relevant disease models, I think, would also be a clear next step for preclinical testing of this system.

Is there anything else you want to share?

I'll take a chance to plug the Center for Immunity and Immunotherapies at Seattle Children's Research Institute, where we have a tremendous and growing collection of investigators who are focused on developing therapies for autoimmune disease, many of them based on cell engineering around T-cells and B-cells and hematopoietic cells. I think it is just doing tremendous work in this field.

This transcript has been edited for clarity.

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REFERENCE
1. Cook P. Targeting human plasma cells using small molecule regulated BCMA CAR T cells eliminates circulating antibodies in humanized mice. Presented at: at ASGCT 28th Annual Meeting, held May 13 to 17, 2024, in New Orleans, LA. Abstract #1258

Peter Cook, PhD, a senior research scientist at Seattle Children’s Research Institute, discussed preclinical work on using dimerizing agent-regulated immune-receptor complex T-cells to target plasma cells.




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